-- The point of dot23 was that historical change and space are related. Existentialism, I'm thinking about Sartre, is, as he wrote in his book "What Is Existentialism" that "existance preceeds essence." Existance is not the choice, the choice is of the essence(I call essence "function" as I read Aristotle's use of the word)(I don't want to get into "what is a function?"right now although that is a fun question). Existentialism is not a philosophy of free will, it is a philosophy of human existance on the blood and guts level. The philosophy of choice which you refer to is more Nietzsche. Nietzsche insulted morality and advanced a will to power. How one reads Nietzsche opens question of if he is horrible or wonderful, most think horrible these days. How one reads Erasmus, I read him to be much like Kant, is also open to question but not as much as Nietzsche. Would you say that Nietzsche was the first postmodernist or Heidegger, for example? As unique as landing on the moon are many of the features of the human condition today which have not happened in history. It's not all the same. I warn that it could be like Rome in that information and technology does not always drive politics, a view I share with Gilpin. That we don't want it to be the same! And I agree that if everyone could just read Erasmus, and wouldn't it be great if we could ask him questions and pick him apart too? I think not. Peace, Hucklebee ------------------------------------------------------------- a forum on spatial articulations, perspectives, and procedures texts are the property of individual authors for information, email majordomo@forum.documenta.de with the following line in the message body: info blast archive at http://www.documenta.de/english/blasta.htm or http://www.documenta.de/deutsch/blasta.htm documenta X Kassel and http://www.documenta.de 1997 -------------------------------------------------------------